Seester S70

IanSeestar

I absolutely love my S50. Truly amazing.

However, I am wondering whether you will soon produce a more grown up version perhaps an S70, which would have twice the aperture and thus faster and more deep field with better optics and better and larger sensor.

Looking at the competition they field an 80mm, but for £4000, way beyond my budget.

But I could afford and would immediately buy a 70mm for around £1000 or say £1200.

If it also includes a wide angle lens too that would be truly incredible.

You would steal a market.

Thanks, Ian

Gustavo Velasquez

IanSeestar

creo que lo mas importante es tener un producto robusto y confiable, con soporte técnico confiable y que las actualizaciones puedan ser confiables, pueden fallar? si, pero puedes confiar que la solución la van a dar rápido. bueno, últimamente no está ocurriendo, entonces de nada sirve pedir un s70 cuando todavía tienes grandes problemas con firmware, soft, etcs... hasta prefiero una actualizacion de hardware son un descuento importante si eso hace que mi s50 pegue el salto de calidad importente en procesador por ejemplo antes de correr por un s70 que va a ser igual al s50 con sus problemitas.

I think the most important thing is to have a robust and reliable product, with reliable technical support and dependable updates. Can they fail? Yes, but you can trust that they'll provide a solution quickly. Well, lately that hasn't been happening, so there's no point in ordering an S70 when you still have major problems with firmware, software, etc. I'd even prefer a hardware upgrade with a significant discount if it means my S50 makes a significant leap in quality, for example, in the processor, before rushing to get an S70 that will be the same as the S50 with all its problems.

3AC9bx99

I would certainly fork out more money for a high end scope provided the tracking was significantly improved. Perhaps a second lens could be used as a guide scope? If the sensor was bigger then this may be less susceptible to declination drift? See what happens over the next year.

Jarous1

I might not even want to know how much all this "fun" is going to cost, given the current memory shortage and the expected shortage of processors as well...

hR8HiLjk

A second lens, especially a wide-angle lens, is probably not suitable for guiding. A solution with a second, smaller sensor next to the main sensor is more likely the best option here.

A S70 or S 70 Pro will be replace some of my loosely assembled equipment. I Like the clean Look of my S30Pro - my best option for traveling also

5W8xOXjM

Yes! I would happily buy a setup with a guide camera and would love it if the main sensor was cooled!

BiF

Gentlemen, do you realize what group of users Seestar is intended for? Seestar is not primarily designed for astronomers – Seestar is a “toy”!

If you want a telescope with a larger aperture, a cooled camera, and a mount with guiding, then you need to buy the proper equipment – an ED or APO refractor, a cooled astro camera, and a precision mount. But that’s a completely different price range – for such a setup, you could buy at least 10 Seestars…

Sir Loyne

BiF
I love it when people call these toys. Is it, or is it just a less expensive way for people to take pictures of the night sky? At what point does something suddenly stop being a toy? Isn't what you describe just a more expensive toy?

I get that what people are describing here is a bit ridiculous. How much can they add and still keep a reasonable price point. But I don't think of these as toys, just less capable tools.

You can see more in a 20" Dobsonian, but does that make 8" Dobs just a toy?

BiF

I meant it in the sense that the Seestar was originally intended for the general public, for non-astronomers—to set it up on a table or on the grass and, after a few minutes, show your son or daughter on a phone some kind of “colorful smudge” and call it a nebula or a galaxy.

As a long-time amateur astronomer, I bought the Seestar out of curiosity. And I soon found that the Seestar can also be used for more serious observations than just photographing “colorful smudges.” Personally, I have been involved in variable star observations for many years. I have an observatory with a 300/1200 Newtonian telescope and a cooled camera. With the Seestar, I am able to achieve very good results, even comparable to the equipment in my observatory!

I would also like it if the Seestar had a cooled camera, a larger aperture, and a guiding camera. But we cannot expect this from ZWO—it goes far beyond the original intended purpose of the Seestar. We should be grateful to ZWO for how willing they are to fulfill some of our wishes, but we cannot ask them for the impossible.

Glabella

BiF are you absolutely sure that that’s the market which the S 50 was built for and that there was no other market How privy were you to that? Were those the ZWO marketing and CEO decisions or are you just summarizing .

3AC9bx99

BiF The Seestar was never intended to compete with the image quality of a traditional astrophotography rig, but provide good images at an entry level price to the wider public which also includes serious astronomers. I have seen outstanding images taken with a Seestar which cannot be described as a "colourful smudge", so to call them a toy is misleading. The Seestar offers a very easy to use and set up telescope which opens up the world of astrophotography.

8BGlqPBZ

With the my S50 - the results really surprise me. The image quality exceeded my expectations truthfully.

Took this one just a few days ago (hopefully the link works). This M51 has 1,203 (20) second subs and has 2X drizzling.

Processed in PI using: GraXpert, SPCC, RC Astro plug-ins, GHS for stretching, Curves Transformation, Color Saturation, SCNR and a few others.

Steve