ASIAIR v3.0 has been released!: Page 7

ASIAIR v3.0 has been released!

magore

Some good news to report - so far I have done more imaging with v3 and ran several plans without issue. I have a asi294mc, zwo focuser and filter wheel. Asi220mm guider. Am5 Mount. Fra400 scope with reducer running f3.9. things I tested: guiding, focusing, filter change, auto focus in temperature change, meridian flip, preview target search and goto, several multi object plans. It all worked well. I did not attempt allsky polar alignment however. There is just one change I noticed - I could not add objects to the end of a plan while it's active but paused. I thought I could do that in the past but I could be wrong - you know age issues :-)

Suggestions: It would be useful to allow adding objects plan in process without a reset as long as it's paused and after a current object

Larry.Cable

magore +1 for your suggestion to permit plan augmentation while running w/o reset!

AstroDude42

magore i once wrote a feature request: https://bbs.zwoastro.com/d/14162-allow-editing-of-tiles-which-are-not-currently-in-progress

serge.llorente

Hello, I'm back with my plate solving issues (fortunately I didn't need it to enjoy the eclipse :- ) ). I realized that for the first time the message "Mount position does not match Askari. Please Sync first". Which I did with no change... Since ages Asiair tells me do switch Off DST on my EQ8 mount. This time I did it too but once again there was no impact on my problems. At the end of the day, despite it seems a bit crazy, it seems that my PS issues occurs on SH2-82 and its suburbs only ! Btw it's a nice nebula so if any one of you wants to try their luck to check my hypothesis :-)
Thanks

Moontanner

serge.llorente fortunately I didn't need it to enjoy the eclipse :-

Rub it in! I'm very jealous.

What sort of ALT/AZ was SH2-82 in when it was giving you grief with the plate solve?
I'd point at it tonight and try a plate solve but my neighbour wouldn't like the scope pointing at their house.

SwBsOMO5

Larry.Cable I dont do rants, I state bluntly the facts of situations...in this case mine. There is a serious learning curve ahead of me, and I look for advice from anyone with experience who is willing to give it. I have done much visual observing and clumsy astrophotography now approaching 60 years. Stepping up into your world and the world of ZWO tech was/is a logical step for me. Having to navigate buggy software wasnt in my initial playbook. Now Im told to dive into Asiair V3.0. Some say go go go, some say stay away. I dont even know if I should setup initially using Sky Atlas alone or go with Asiair thruout. The "Missing Manual 1.9" is being quite informative.

Moontanner

Corsair
I'll try disconnecting the CAA tomorrow night if the weather holds. The mount has been tracking like a champ after the manual guide calibration routines, so I'd be surprised if it didn't work better if I disabled/disconnected the CAA.
The last lot of manual guiding calibration subs were good enough to make me consider using dithering again.
For tonight I'm simply trying a new plan that has the same targets with the same angles less 180 deg. I've swapped app versions and firmware many times without starting a new plan, so figured it couldn't hurt to reset the plan and see if that helps.

On another note, the last lot of Android logger files I grabbed seemed to have loads more details than I'm used to seeing. No response from my email, but I'd expect more details will do that.

Clear skies.

KaufmannRoger

AstroDude42

I have to admit that I have had a similar wish as your feature request. However, what I realized is if I had thought out my AutoRun/Plan prior to executing the session I would not have had the need. ASIAIR gives you the opportunity to edit prior to executing so I'm not really sure why you would make the ask you did. Since then, I have learned to spend my time up-front to think through my session prior to executing it. In short, when planning a session save yourself time and effort by creating a good plan in the first place.

Luxo

ZWO doesn't implement feature requests from users. Been that way for years, unfortunately.

AstroDude42

Luxo unfortunately, yes. They are the only company i know to ignore valuable suggestions by their customers and provide questionable „solutions“ that sometimes totally miss the point.

serge.llorente

hello @Moontanner ! SH2-82 is (where I live, south of France) AZ140°/Alt60° so high enough to avoid problems with your jealous neighbor :-) This night I tried many PS and I noticed that as I walked away 2-3° in DEC (and equivalent in AD) PS were getting almost normal. So It looks like the Bermuda triangle of plate solving ! Thank you in advance for giving a try yourself.

Moontanner

serge.llorente
I had a look on Stellarium and noticed there's quite a few moving stars in that area for your location. It's getting ridiculous lately with all the satellites.
The Little Cocoon Nebula is just above 20deg alt at the beginning of the evening here. My neighbours wouldn't be jealous. They might call the police. 😃

Corsair I'd be interested to see if your guiding bug that you're experiencing still happens if you remove the CAA (or would simple disabling it work? not sure) from your imaging train.

I ended up disabling the CAA after the first target failed guide calibration miserably. I also turned off the recalibrate after MF setting to see how the mount would go without more than my 1x manual guide calibration routine.
Results were better than expected, so I don't think the mount is the problem. I'll leave on the recalibrate after MF tonight and see how that goes with the CAA turned off.

One environmental change to my location is the new LED street lights being installed. They're much better at keeping the ground bright and sky dark. Though I do wonder about the possibility of glare impacting the scope at certain angles.
The glare from LEDS is terrible and I've noticed the occasional odd artifact in some of my subs. Easily eliminated by adding a temporary shield to test that one.

AstroDude42

KaufmannRoger ymmv, but i think always planning perfectly is an illusion. I know because i'm german – we try to plan everything perfectly and most of the time we fail miserably 😅

magore

KaufmannRoger
Thanks for your comment.
There are several really good reasons. Weather variability will often change target priority. Typically I will arrange targets in order based on there altitude during the middle of their individual plan sequence. Note that this arrangement has nothing to do with importance but quality, less air to look through. If weather conditions change then these criteria change roles. Also If transparency changes I may want to reduce total exposure for certain items to fit more important targets. Another issue is because of complex tree lines I have I may slightly miss my estimate of an object being obstructed at certain times by some degree which requires modification of my plan in progress. Another is I might be getting tired and wish to compress my plan by reducing various item exposure time before packing up. There so are many reasons like this thatusers keep bumping into over time that it literally begs for this solution. No amount of planning can account for every situation so better planning is not the best solution in this case

KaufmannRoger

AstroDude42

Again, putting thought into your plan helps the plan go smoothly and as I mentioned ASIAIR also gives you the opportunity to edit before executing the autorun/plan. I often tweak mine just before tapping the run button and planning perfectly isn't an illusion, it's a goal.

Larry.Cable

AstroDude42 agree 100% - e.g: I dont think we needed (or wanted) the "telescope n/w"

AstroDude42

KaufmannRoger it doesn’t hurt you if there is some function you won’t use, does it?

Moontanner

Calibration log for the first target last night:

4 minutes later after pausing and restarting the same plan. Same target. Same angle. Same filter. Same settings.

PMTeam@ZWO
I'm still waiting on a response from my email and app based bug reports. It's gotta be something simple that's running out of sequence. Any suggestions would be welcome so I could start using my CAA again.

serge.llorente

Thank you for having a look @Moontanner ! last night I pointed two other targets in another part of the new with no issues at all wi plate solving, so the mystery remains.
with regards to CAA I posted a few weeks ago on the fact if I keep it ON while doing meridian flip the final image is not aligned anymore with the initial one, by far. So I'm forced to switch it OFF now, but this is a real bug...

Moontanner

serge.llorente with regards to CAA I posted a few weeks ago on the fact if I keep it ON while doing meridian flip the final image is not aligned anymore with the initial one, by far. So I'm forced to switch it OFF now, but this is a real bug...

I only get that problem occasionally. I think it's linked to the same bug with the calibration sequence and the target drifts off centre before guiding eventually locks in on a star.
Tonight I am trying with the CAA turned on again and more slight changes to my setup routine. So far the first calibration looked very good. The morning will tell the full story.

I really want to get the CAA dialled in for when I start shooting smaller galaxy clusters again. I'm still learning with the mono cam on the big easy targets for now, so a good time to try and solve the CAA problem.
Maybe a new SynLink for Christmas if ZWO doesn't hurry up. 😉

aDz38RjR

Subject: All-Sky Polar Alignment "Preparation" screen has no cancel/back option

Hi all,

I'm using an ASIAIR Plus with an ASI120MM Mini configured as Main Camera (since my Sony A1 II is not supported). When I tap "PA" to start All-Sky Polar Alignment, the app shows the "Preparation" checklist screen (the one listing the 4 steps: RA axis northward, connect camera/mount, point at visible sky, RA will rotate _30° west).

The problem: this screen only shows the start arrow button on the right side. There is no cancel/back button. Tapping the back arrow (top left) makes the "ASIAIR" title briefly flash to "return" and then jump back to the same screen — it doesn't actually exit.

Closing and removing the app from multitasking doesn't help either — when reopening, the app goes straight back to the same Preparation screen.

The only way I've found to get out of this state is a full power cycle of the ASIAIR unit.

App shows "up to date" under Info, so this isn't fixed by the latest update.

Is this a known issue? Is there a proper way to exit this screen without starting the routine or power-cycling the device?

Thanks!

Corsair

aDz38RjR
Can't you exit by tapping on PA on the right hand side and changing the mode to Preview (or any other mode)?

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