Hello. If I’m using the Seestar for live viewing, can I continue stacking additional frames after the intelligent denoising feature has been activated, or should I wait until I have stopped taking additional frames? Also, once intelligent denoising is applied to the live, stacked image, is the denoised image saved to my iPhone, or do I have to apply this feature again? Thanks. Gordon
Intelligent Denoising Feature
Thanks. I think I screwed up. After a 40 minute mosaic, the clouds rolled in and I shut down the Seestar before denoising. After that I couldn’t apply the feature.
Gordon
For those of you wondering what happens when you use Smart Noise Reduction while shooting, here are some instructions:
- clicking on noise reduction while shooting will fetch the stacked image, then jump to a new screen showing the noise reduction process, then successfully display the noise reduced image, which you can go to share (support for editing in the next version)
- share it to save the IPG locally, if you don't share and click back, the current image will not be saved.
- take one temporarily and do the noise reduction, don't click save in the successful noise reduction screen or it won't be saved, the image will disappear after you exit the noise reduction screen.
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Gordon Nope, it's still available. Just remember to switch the app to look for images on the Seestar device itself not locally (it defaults to local). You can apply denoise to any image on the Seestar device, including old ones (created before the feature was added). I think the main issue is that it needs to see the original .fit file, not the .jpg.
I know I’m being dense but I’m old, so hopefully you’ll forgive me. It’s clear to me that you can denoise and go back and continue capturing additional frames. I don’t understand the concept of sharing. Explain why the image won’t be saved if not shared. Also, explain if you click “save” it won’t be saved. That doesn’t make sense to me. Thanks. Gordon
Support@Seestar What I see when I try to AI Denoise while shooting is this:
It does work pretty well on previously saved images, even much older ones. Is it true that it can only process images stored on the S50? Does that mean I have to upload my entire archive of one year of images back to the S50 to use this feature?
starnet59
If the image you want to noise reduce has too many edges it will fail, and images that are not captured or post-processed by Seestar cannot be noise reduced by Seestar (it may be possible if the image format and parameters remain the same, but it is not recommended to do so).
What about saving the denoised image in FIT format? That would be so much more useful than just JPG. Maybe use JPG as default but add a user option to produce FIT output?
starnet59 We'll consider the idea, but we don't have plans for it at the moment.
Actually, when AI Denoising existing existing images, SeeStar reads the JPG, not the FIT file! This makes absolutely no sense, why denoise a heavily compressed and much noisier JPG image when you could start with the much cleaner and higher dynamic range FIT file? And not only is this JPG only, but the images are watermarked, which means you lose the bottom 10% of the image.
How difficult can it be to replace JPG read and write image function calls with FIT ones? This is such a low hanging fruit it's basically sitting on the ground.
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Gordon Go to "My Album" while you're still connected to the Seestar device. At the top it'll show "Saved" and "Seestar". Saved is a local folder on your mobile device with copies of the jpg files that Seestar produces at the end of each stacking session. The Seestar tab has the original fit file for the session saved in a folder on the Seestar device itself, and that's the one you can run the Denoiser on. If you haven't wiped out the Seestars storage, you can go back to much older sessions (I have some from last year) and denoise those too.
And you don't need to Share/Export. Just hit the icon in the upper right corner (with the arrow) and and select "Download" it'll save a copy of the denoised image back to your local mobile device. I usually then open it with Google Photos app, tweak Black Point, Saturation and "Pop".
Thanks. Super thorough explanation. Gordon
Does your ASI Studio software also have the 'Intelligent-denosing' feature to use if the fits flies are exported from my Seestar S50? If not can this featrure be added?
Seestar_S50 Our ASI studio doesn't have intelligent noise reduction for the time being, thanks for your suggestion, I will feedback to the department.
An option to have .fit file after denoising would be great.