lorenzocold As you did not describe the problem you have, just left many useless or discordant comments.
Can you please tell me the problem you have and your needs? thank you in advance.

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charding About the mini move problem, we are doing more tests for verification, and consider if the change the value back to 0.1.

[unknown] thank you! I believe that moving it to 0.2px from 0.1px solved a few issues regarding oscillation on a few AM5 mounts but unfortunately it is a worse option for most mounts that do not have these issues. I has put my guiding numbers almost to the point my mount is not achieving its specified <0.8 rms guiding promise by ZWO. Is it possible to just have a set of numbers like the guide rate tab check box has, say 0.1, 0.15, 0.2. And have it default to one of them. You have given us everything else required to get great guiding and this one more setting would be all that is required to give total PHD2 equivalent functionality and it is important. Thank you for looking at this more!

    Tech@ZWO here are my before and after logs. Worse with 0.2px minmo.

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      Kevin_A I agree with your statement but would like finer control. Both here and the guiding exposure screen should allow for a few pre-select options and for entering a value. For example, with my AM5, I find that 1 second is best for guiding, but would like to try 0.8 or 1.2 etc.

        Tech@ZWO I was testing with an ASIAir Plus on an AM5 mount. The guide scope was 240mm f/4. I do not have the logs but I tested the beta and could not get the guiding I am used to getting. If my memory is correct (and I think I documented it in another post) I was getting about 0.9 guiding with this Beta with very few corrections in guiding. It would wait until the graph was beyond a reasonable error before correcting. I finally reverted back to the current software that is on the app store and guiding was back to 0.5 to 0.6 total error.

          charding

          IDK, maybe people are paying too much attention to guiding performance when it's not needed? With my smaller refractors I only need to guide under 2"/pixel and my largest at 0.85"/pixel so as long as I can guide under that consistently I really don't care what the guide setting default to. On my AM5 and AM3 that's really easy guide below these image scales.

          However, with my C11 (which is at the weight limit of the AM5 anyway) I need to be guiding under 0.35"/pixel which is super hard on that mount no matter what setting are available to tweak.

          At the end of the day, as long as your stars are round after a 5-10 minute sub, who cares?

            hyiger I agree totally about the round stars! My image scales vary too and most my scopes are fine at 1rms. However, since the minmo change from 0.1px to 0.2px my AM5 rms numbers have doubled and now my largest 115mm scope is having issues getting the numbers I need which is below 0.7rms. My slope is fairly good at 0.155 arcsec/sec so that says a lot for people with worse slopes. It is a hard time of year to test now as my skies are just not allowing it!

              Great news on the change. Once this is released, if the default stays at 0.2, I can imagine a ton of traffic over a Cloudy Nights with the topic heading "After upgrading to ASIAir 2.1.2 my guiding is bad" Most likely coming from a guy with a RedCat 51 and a 3"/pixel image scale who was guiding at 0.5"/pixel and is now 1"/pixel.

                hyiger
                Kevin_A
                Just out of curiosity, what is the formula for calculating the maximum RMS of your own setup?

                  MarcK you can go thru calculating your worst slope that gives youbthe best guiding arcsec/sec on the zwo website.
                  It is under the AM5 product page somewhere…. It looks like this image.

                    hyiger I am myself only interested in my 800mm scope pixel scale for minmo adjustability as my ultra widefield setups are not affected.

                    Kevin_A
                    Thanks for your answer Kevin
                    My question was more about the camera and focal length. In terms of the theoretical maximum possible error before the stars are no longer round.

                      MarcK find the image resolution of your camera scope combination. There are a few online calculators such as Astronomy Tools CCD suitability calculator. That will give you your setup resolution. My 644mm scope using a camera 3.75uM pixel size resolution calculates to 1.2”, so I try to get my guiding under 0.6rms. It is best to guide at half the size of your resolution setup resolution or better. It is based on the Nyquist sampling Theorem.

                        Kevin_A
                        And the ratio of guiding camera / scope to main camera / scope does not have to be taken into account? I have 4.90 arcsec px main camera / scope and 6.44 arcsec px guiding camera / scope. This would mean that I would still have an acceptable guiding at over 2 rms?