Lain402 hi, I totally agree with your analysis although I don’t have a EAF, everything is fine upto clicking the shutter release in the app before then the app is nice and quick and you can change the ISO and it immediately changes in the camera display but once the camera starts to take shots the camera display changes to PC and you can’t do anything or see anything in the camera rear monitor until you either turn the camera off and on again or disconnect and reconnect in the app, is that the same for you? Hopefully ZWO will address these issues soon!
ASIAIR Pro and Nikon Z7 (Z6)
les_b It’s normal that you can’t control the camera from the rear screen once you press on the shutter button on the app. When the camera is connected to the Asiair and it’s shooting images you can not manually use the camera anymore. The camera’s screen is turned off and doesn’t display anything, same on the little oled screen on the top, it only displays the camera battery level and PC. It’s the same with all the DSLR camera I used before on the red box, no worries about that, it’s perfectly normal.
My problem is the firmware of the test version that was extremely slow and was disconnecting my other zwo devices every 1-2 minutes. I ended up having to downgrade to v1.6 since it was completely unusable. I’ll wait until the final version, hopefully @tech@zwo#48966 they’ll correct all those bugs !
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les_b I can imagine how frustrating it is to have to wait, only relying on a unfinished beta version. I still have my Nikon D500, they never tested it with the Asiair but it work flawlessly for 2 years now. I’ll use my z6-2 with the Asiair if it’s possible, if not I still can use it unguided with a wide field lens (105 mm f1.4) on my skywatcher eq6 R :
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This morning I’ve finally updated to 1.78.48 version, which is supposed to be a stable version, not a beta/test one.
The latency problem that affects the Nikon Z6-2 wasn’t fixed at all: when you press the shutter button in app, you still have to wait 12 seconds (Yes,I’ve counted !) until the camera react and take the actual image, no matter the actual exposure length.
This mean you will spend far more time when focusing, PA, previewing on the field.
Taking a 10 seconds long exposure require around half a minute to complete : 12sec no reacting + 10sec exposure + 7sec loading image ! Can’t imagine having to PA in theses conditions. I don’t even mention the latency of the app when the camera is connected. Switching from say “Preview” mode to “Focus” mode will cost you another 12 sec ! Nothing will happen during this time. The weak wifi issue was already infuriating but now…
You can feel that the connection between the ASIAIR and the Z6-2 is not fluid and stable (Can’t say about Z7-2). Camera settings in app takes an eternity to load , Main camera Settings menu froze every time you enter it … But still lightning (lightning!) fast when connected to my old Nikon D500 ( they’ve never tested this camera officially but it works perfectly with the ASIAIR ).
To be honest, I’m quite disappointed with this update we were waiting for months. I’ve ordered the Asiair PLUS few days ago (better waisting my money on something else next time), but I’m really thinking about moving to something more reliable, more pro, so I can keep the ASIAIR for my iOptron Skyguider and/or observing sessions only. It’s not surprising many astro-guys (Aka “zwo advertisers”) we see on YouTube still use laptops in real life ! :´D
Sorry for my (apparent) negativity, hopefully they’ll fix this before the new moon. (keep dreaming !! )
I’m checking this forum everyday ( I’m not the only one) waiting for someone from zwo to react to our posts about the Nikon Z6-2. I’ve wrote a detailed feedback about how the AAP behaves when connected to the Nikon Z6-2… no reaction :-/
This is my order on 淘宝 for the new Asiair PLUS, now I see the PRO is not really supporting my camera could you tell me if the PLUS will ? If not I don’t need another red box to gather dust on a top shelf somewhere !
Lain402 I’m surprised you haven’t had a response yet but not surprised at your comments as I have pretty much said the same on the beta feedback, as it stands at the moment the ASIAIR pro is pretty useless to me as I’m not prepared to write off my Nikon just because ZWO can’t produce something workable and I can’t believe the latest version got out of beta, just wish ZWO would do something about this quickly!!!!
@tech@zwo#47812 are you listening to the feedback here and on the beta feedback?
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I just received my Asiair PLUS this morning at my appartement in China. It was advertised to be sent in November but it’s already here ! Some will say that at least they are better when shipping their products than updating it
Now my wife (who’s currently in China) will send it to me, I should have it in a few days. I’m currently in the Southern Hemisphere and hopefully I can test this new version before the beginning of austral summer ( rain every day ).
And maybe I’ll post a short review on YouTube to let you know what I think about this new iteration !
les_b They actually read what we say here. They just don’t know how to react since they don’t have a Nikon Z6-2 to test the new update by themselves. I suspect they just copied-pasted gPhoto code and did not actually test the camera. From the outside we see ZWO as a huge company with hundreds of developers, big R&D budget …it’s not. This hobby is still a niche market.
I think they are a bit overtaken by their recent success. They have reached a leadership level on the amateur market and maybe they didn’t have time to adapt to this new position ( recruit more customer service staff, testing their own products instead of relying on their fans and customers base, asking them to test the product for them…).
I hope they will solve this issue very soon and get more fans in the Nikon shooters community !
Zwo 加油吧!
@tech@zwo#49697 while I agree with you on the difficulty of supporting multiple models and manufacturers (I see the same in mobile and game dev), I think it might be a good idea to create a standard testing methodology for new models (eg a very detailed list of steps to take for feature and regression testing that requires documentation and repetitions) that the community can use to help, and separate methods of app delivery (eg the one in the app stores is a version that is well tested, there's a version for bleeding-edge versions etc) so the general public won't be hit by problematic releases that cater to these relatively untested cameras.
@tech@zwo#49697 thanks for your reply and I understand your comments but I really don’t accept them as a valid excuse I’m sure a company such as ZWO which now has a good product base can invest in testing other products if not then you really shouldn’t advertise your product as working with cameras such as the Nikon Z 2, at the moment I have an ASIAIR that I can’t use and my only option at the moment is to buy another camera but to ensure long term compatibility I would have to buy one of your cameras and to get anywhere near the quality of my Nikon that would be very expensive, all in all you produce great products but your support for other suppliers products are not very good, please get your tech team to resolve this issue
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@tech@zwo#49697
What an excuse ! No need to buy any camera man ! Just RENT it ! On the Chinese market you can rent a Nikon Z6-2 for 100 元 / day ( 15$/day) !
“It’s impossible to use our budget for this” ? So you basically admitting that you released an update without any test on the camera it’s supposed to support. And you advertised it as functional… waiting for your customers to report problems and bugs. And when they do you don’t react on the forum, preferring to send private messages in Chinese asking why that customer just don’t send his camera instead of making a mess on the forum !
As I told you in my reply to your (not that polite) e-mail: I can’t send my camera now but if you want now I can send you the “budget” for this expensive operation. Just send me your bank account and I’ll transfer the money you need to test this camera, because buying your products for 2 years now is not enough. ( Asiair PRO, Asiair PLUS, ASI120mini, ASI290mini,EAF, Mini guide scope…even your t-shirt ! )
What you need is not a budget ! You need a real customer support who know how to communicate in time with your fans /customers base ! 我真的无语了
@tech@zwo#49743 does that mean you will be fixing the problems next week or perhaps you would prefer to give me a 50% discount on an ASI533MC and I’ll use that instead of my Nikon lol